5 vs. Seshlash (preperation)

[Ben (DM)]

This is a topic where we can discuss the stuff and put the charactersheats.

[Aliandor]

everyone, don't forget to include your 4th level extra ability point, for five persons, this means 5 ability points, giving us a whopping +2.5 total ability modifier!


anduh Ben, can I have daggerwhips at level five? pleeeease
And yet another question: healing potions?

[Janna]

you have some money to spend. But be honest and spend it only in what you would've bought with that amount of gold.
Ben how much can we spend?

[Forum ghost]

A few tips:
*at level 5 taking +1 armour seems like a good idea, however the +1 armour bonus is not the greatest thing you can have against a spellcaster.
If you want improved armour, take the cheaper mithril shirt or elven chain.
* to all spell casters: every additional spell you can cast is one well spend. since you do not have to worry about opening locks, avoid picking non-combat spells!
also remeber that mindflayers have SR ( or PR and if ben ruled psionics to differ from magic, there is no problem, if they are equal however the following aplais)
choose spell penetration or the like, of use spells which do not allow SR saves. Furthermore mindflayers have high will saves, thus avoid picking any mindcontrol stuff.
But as said before every spells counts, thus bringen a pearl of power might not be a bad idea. However keep in mind that many scrolls go in one pearl.
* high saves are extemely handy against those who use spells, and since most psionic powers work on the will, pick iron will to boost low will saves. Keep in mind that if you ever fail a will saves against his DC 17 mindblast, you a grounded, and an easy target.
for this try bringen any anti-paralisys equipment, like scrolls.
* avoid comming close, for a well directed mind blast can take out many a fighter ( and since there are very little weapons with range 60 ft. most melee fighters do have to come close)
try to become en expert marksman, for most bows can reach over 100 ft., giving an advantage over a mindflayers most valued weapon.
* every power he can't manifest is a round won by you, thus using melfs acid arrow, or other continuus damaging effects, might give you enemy a hard time.
* To all you sneaks you there, a potion of invisibility goes a long way, and dealing that additional 3d6 points of damage is very well worth beeing take out first.
It's not about you personaly, as long as you as a groop beat him.
* and to top that, work in on eachother. Picking improved invisibility might seem a drain on you resorces, but a rough who gets that 3d6 points every turn, is worth it. Or better, buy a scroll.
* try to avoid stuff that ups you abilities. Sure those extra points of intel are nice for a higher DC, but these things are expensive, thus for all the money you put into such a headband are maybe better spend on scrolls, or potions.
On the other hand, there are only so many spells you can cast in a amound of time, thus everything you can do extra is nice ( thus quickend spells are gold).
alsome to activate some items you need only a move equivilant action. try to get as much out of you round as possible.

good luck, and remeber, everything is posible, if you ony prepare for it

[Ben (DM)]

Jules, daggerwhip is a stunning 10 gp. I got the stats... around here... somewhere... yeah.
Forum ghost, who are you?
I believe someone stated something about 9000 gold for that lvl... whatever suits your fancy.

[Aliandor]

And well, here's my fifth level character, I've kept my original equipment, upgraded some (a lot actually) to masterwork, and took the liberty of looting some drow body's for their poisons, if that's allowed
My armour is now a SR/PR 13 breastplate, to help resist those nasty psionic thingies he's gonna (try) to do to me, I also hope my cloak of resistance will be helpfull if the SR lets me down.
I followed ghost's tip and got me a composite longbow.
I still have 10.8 GP left, any tips?
all in all, this is as good as it gets, I think

Name: Aliandor
Race: Human
Class: Fighter 5
Allignment: chaotic evil

Statline: Str 13 Dex 16 Con 12 Int 8 Wis 8 Cha 10

Saves: F +5 R +4 W +2 (+6 +5 +3 with cloak, see below)
HP: 4d10 +15 (37)
AC: 18 (10 base, +5 breastplate, +3 dex)

BAB: 5
range attack base: 8 (5 BAB, +3 dex)
melee attack base: 6 (5 BAB, +1 str)
grapple attack: 6 (5 BAB, +1 str)

Skills:
survival (cc) +0 (2 skill points/2, -1 wisdom),
intimidate +6 (6 skill points),
ride +5 (2 skill, +3 dex)
handle animal +1 (1 skill +0 cha),
escape artist +8 (5 skill, +3 dex)

Feats: Exotic weapon proficiency (Whip), Pointblank shot, two-weapon fighting, Iron Will, weapon specialization (whips), Run

Equipment (9000 gold):

SAG:
backpack (2gp)
belt pouch (1gp)
bedroll+winterblaket (1sp+5sp)
waterskin (1gp)
5 candles (5x 1cp)
4sq yard canvas (2x2yard, 4sp)
5 chalk (5x 1cp)
fishook+line (2x 1sp)
flint+steel (1gp)
mirror, small steel (10gp)
hooded lantern (7gp)
3x oil (3x1sp)
100ft hemp rope (2gp)
needle + thread (5sp + 10m thread 1sp)
2x Drow poison (injury DC 13 unconsciousness/2d4 hour unconsciousness) (2x 75gp)
cloak of resistance (+1 to all saves) (1000gp)
8x Healing potion (1d8+1) (8x50gp)
1x potion of haste (5 rounds) (750gp)
potion of protection from law (2 minutes) (100gp)
potion of protection from evil (2 minutes) (100gp)
potion of owl's wisdom (3 minutes) (300gp)
potion of bull's strength (3 minutes) (300gp)

Subtotal SAG: 3136gp 2sp

Armour:
MW spell resistant breastplate (SR/PR 13) (1x 4350gp)

Weapons:
2x MW daggerwhip, (2x 360gp), +9 MEL, 1d6+3, 19/20 x2, max range 15ft.
5x dagger (5x2gp), +8 RAN +6 MEL 1d4+1 19/20 x2, range increment 10ft.
2x spiked gauntlet (2x5gp), +6 MEL 1d4+1 x2
1x MW greataxe (1x 370gp), +7 MEL 1d12+1 x3
1x club(1x 0 cp) +9 RAN +6 MEL 1d6+1 x2 range increment 10ft.
1x sap (1gp) +6 MEL 1d6+1(subdual) x2
+1str Composite longbow +8 RAN, 1d8+1 x3, 110 ft range increment (200 gp)
40 arrows for longbow
(2 of which are pre-coated with Drow poison)
2x tanglefoot bag, +8 ranged touch (grenadelike) (entangles: -2 att, -4 effective dex, reflex DC 15 or glued to floor, DC 15 Concentration check to cast spells) (2x50GP)
3x thunderstone (grenadelike) (10ft spread: Fort DC 15 or deafened -> -4 initiative, 20% spell failure on any spell with verbal (V) component) (range increment 20 ft.) (3x 30gp)
Alchemists fire (grenadelike) (direct hit: 1d6 fire + 1d6 fire in second round / splash: 1, ref DC15 extinguishes after direct hit, avoiding secondary damage, +2 bonus when rolling on ground) (range increment 10ft.) (20gp)

subtotal weapons: 1523gp

total: 8997GP 2SP
remaining money: 2gp 8 sp

and to conclude: P}{34r |V|3h

[Forum Ghost]

First of all, nice work, although ne ready to modify to support your friends.
furthermore, the use of you Masterwork weapons is very slim, thus I suggest you lose them and get yourself a potion of haste. They are never useless, and you might considder getting some alcemical arrows, if you are familliar with them!
But the rest of your items/feats: good job!

[Forum Ghost]

Guest-Forum said:

First of all, nice work, although ne ready to modify to support your friends.
furthermore, the use of you Masterwork weapons is very slim, thus I suggest you lose them and get yourself a potion of haste. They are never useless, and you might considder getting some alcemical arrows, if you are familliar with them!
But the rest of your items/feats: good job!

In the name of the Ghost:
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[Janna]

I need a Dm's guide before finishing equipment.
Like prises for potions and magical enhancements.
The rest is finished. My dex goes up, all skills go up to max lvl 5. My bab close = +3 +1 str
bab ranged= +3, +4 dex
All excluding futuristic modifiers for weapons. ( yet t come) feat, exotic weapon prof (katana: FINALLY)
save yet. will= 0 for= 2 ref=8

[Irtie]

Ehm, I'm going to be a while before I have a lvl 5 char. I'm rather busy and the Elf fantasy fair is this weekend.

[Ben (DM)]

Don't worry, if everything goes well, I'm at EFF too, so no running this battle this weekend. Which reminds me, gotta post that.

[Janna]

sorry will is yet -1

[Janna]

Here's my list of enhanced equipment.

Potions ( one each)
- Haste
- invisibilty
- bears endurance
- displacement
- prot evil
- prot good
- remove fear

Weapons
- Keen katana
- 2 frost hand crossbows
- short sword
- 50 bolts

[Aliandor]

Seeing al these good ideas and suggestions, I'll edit my equipment too, Ghost was right: 5 MW daggers is a bit much , I'll invest the money better (potions ),

I also noticed a problem in the equipment: Seslash has true seeing... no invisibility, blur etc is gonna help :/
on the other hand, it'll force him to waste a round manifesting true seeing , as well as cost him 250gp in components.

and about manifesting: from what I understand, manifesting has no components, no verbal, somatic, focus, etc.
does this mean he doesn't get penalties for being deaf, wearing armour, being paralysed and stuff?

[Janna]

yep, but I was as fair in wasting money on anything I would have bought anyways. (not exceptionally anti-flayer stuff. Or else everything would have been baned)

[Aliandor]

I really hope that "yep" doesn't mean psionics don't have spellcomponents, there has to be SOMEthing that get's them armour check penalties, audiovisual requirements (seeing targets, hearing your powerwords), anything?

[atanhel]

Let me tell you a little secret:
psions have no spell components ( but do have higher XP cost for those spells requiering expensive spell components), thus no spell component pouch, no shifty searching for the right component, nothing, but it gets better:

a psion does not need to move anything, or speack at all, to manifest powers, thus gaged, deafend or even stunned, he can still use his powers, and there is no armour that prevents that ( ergo: many psions take a level of fighter for high armour class, or take the feats appropriate to wear armour).

But it gets better:
if a psion wishes so, tehre is no way you can even decern that he manifested the power!
teher are e few things that can happen while manifesting a power, like a ping in everyones mind, glowing eyes, a strange smell, or ectoplasma apearing, but... if a psion wishes he can suppres these things by making a concentration check ( DC 15)!

psiononics work in diffirent and misteriouse ways!
get used to it

[Janna]

he's right. the big problem with psions is that they can use it everytime except when paralysed and asleep I presume.in which case they can't use their mind. If you knock them uot they are dead. Untill that big problem. And besides that psions have less spells etc.. compared to wizard which doesnt mean that these abbilities are weaker because they aren't

[atanhel]

I've checked it, a psion can even manifest when paralized.. as long as he can use his mind.
and a paralized creature is held, can't move, but can think, ergo, can manifest

ow btw janna: what is a frost crossbow?
in order to enhance your crossbow it has to be at least +1, so I can't put my finger on it

[Janna]

Does it really? Well in that case one is a handcrosbow +1 and the other a normal one. The katana will then be a keen katana +1. But I'll check it for sure.